The Liberal Debate Playbook In Action By Local Journalist

Steve Rider Steve Rider 5 Comments


Recently I posted about the 1920 US recession that recovered in roughly 18 months and highlighted how Obama might learn from the less taxes and less spending policies that were employed.  I just got wind that my post (which I believe was referenced on Larry Elder’s show this morning) had generated extensive attention from liberal blogger/journalist Dave Maass.

I’ve read through Mr. Maass’s efforts to combat my article and rather than get into a direct debate with him, I’d like to highlight his exact debate tactics, as he is doing an exemplary job of illustrating how most liberals conduct their arguments.

First, he completely dismisses the discussion, without even challenging a single fact. To quote, his argument goes no deeper than saying, “Warren frickin’ Harding.”

After this hallow argument was called out for what it was,  Mr. Maass runs the classic maneuver that is so effective with liberals — he shifted the subject and made a personal attack on Warren Harding.  Clearly, my post was about the POLICIES enacted during that time and how it played out within the country.  However, Mr. Maass brought up a quote where Harding called himself unfit for presidency, and found some commentary from Harding’s peers that essentially portray him as stupid.  To Maass’s credit, a couple conservatives took the bait, and engaged in debating his claim. This allows Maass to go on an impressive research crusade to support his argument, which has no bearing on the discussion I outlined.

I have no interest in Warren Harding’s opinion of himself, or others’ opinion of him, or if he was even a good person.   My extensive research of Warren Harding’s character goes no further than what I’ve seen on Boardwalk Empire which doesn’t paint him as a class-act.  Even if he was a complete moron, what he did produced results that we desperately need today, which is why Harding’s actions are relevant — his character and intelligence is not.

To put it into perspective, I’m not an Obama fan, but I think he ran an extremely effective internet campaign in 2008.  It would be foolish for conservatives to dismiss his tactics and results because we feel he is not fit to be president, or even if Obama himself said he isn’t qualified to be president (here’s hoping, yesterday he said one term would be enough for him).

In summary, nobody should even be arguing with Maass over his claim of Harding being unfit.  Maass’s only attempt to argue historical economic facts doesn’t go beyond a few sentences where he bizarrely references pirates and kidnapping, but he wisely doesn’t dwell on this too much as he’s far more capable of winning a historical discussion on what someone said about Harding.

I’m only documenting these recent events as an example for conservatives to be cognizant of when engaging in discussions with liberals.  Often times the arguments we present are devastating to the liberal agenda, and like an addict trying to cover up a lie, they will desperately try to shift the debate or make personal attacks to you or the people involved, rather than confront an argument at its core.


Comments 5

  1. Extensive attention? I made a snarky remark.

    Hard-core socialist? That’s news to me.

    Research crusade? Fikes issued a challenge. I really like and admire Fikes, so I took him up on his challenge.

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    I’ve updated this post from saying Maass is a “hard-core socialist” to a “liberal” as apparently he took issue with my description. I consider them both the same and… wait a minute… the discussion has been shifted again! These liberals are crafty.

  3. Excellent, Steve. I respect Dave too, which is why I’m challenging him. If he were the average inaccurate schmo, he wouldn’t be worth my time. 😉

  4. I know the quote has little bearing on Harding’s performance as president. But it needed to be challenged. I’ll use a post over the weekend to discuss how the disputed Harding quote is a good lead-in for how to spot questionable statements.

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