You’re right…scandalous!…I look forward to more in depth and crack observations on all the pre-endorsement “closed meetings” and elitist cabals of “old white men” that greased the skids, bypassed the bylaws, and crafted the endorsement atmospherics to ensure the New Generation Cultural Stalinist’s Hood Ornament and exposed plagiarist has received. Perhaps one can expose the insider Tammany Hall cronyism that has been the hallmark for why 80K former Republicans have left the party over the last 7 years, complete with intimidation of members, financial inconsistencies, and stark political nepotism that makes young FBI agents salivate.…No..wait! Let’s explore the initial media blackout on Jorgensen’s campaign by Roger Hedgecock (full-throated enabler for DeMaio…walking (if not crossing) a very thin line on his radio host obligations and ethical boundaries…but I hear that kind of muddled approach isn’t new for him… and Papa Doug’s UT rejecting of pro-Jorgensen editorials…KFMB finally loosened the reigns and actually had Jorgensen, and Simon, on Mike Slater today…apparently filed FCC complaints have a tendency to do that!
Of course, Roger is ostensibly afraid to have Jorgensen on his “All-Carl-All-the-Time” coverage of the 52nd race…again, the optics/perception are horrible for DeMaio when measured with Jorgensen (which is no doubt why DeMaio’s campaign demands DeMaio is never in the same room as Jorgensen..speaking of cowardice…)..…responsible, balanced, and so informative is Hedgecock’s approach…such a paragon of impartial journalistic and political virtue in assisting the people of San Diego come to informed decisions…and of course, he loves the vets!…And what better way to show that than have a blackout on a veteran running for Congress in your district by denying him access to your show?
Oh, and Vito…better come clean on your Nom De Plume…Richard Rider hates that and will accuse you of cowardice…unless of course he knows you and, more importantly, you agree with him.
mary moran
Hi Vito, I support all true conservatives, not just Kirk Jorgensen. And obviously my post was not promoting Kirk, as I didn’t realize he supports stripping firefighters of their pensions (IF he actually does, I haven’t spoken with Kirk lately). So, how can you title my post differently? But its ok, I know your real objective is to create sensationalism for your gay buddy Carl DeMaio, that’s what all liberals do, its kinda funny actually.
Details details
Mary Moran says “I know your real objective is to create sensationalism for your gay buddy Carl…”
Mary, with that, you reveal oh so much.
We get it. You dislike gays.
This has nothing to do with pensions, or any other issue.
It’s those damn gays, right Mary?
Founding Father
If true, then she should vote for Peters if Carl is the nominee…but she won’t…because DeMaio and Peters possess the same positions on formerly recognized GOP platform issues.
But, you go…it is clearly easier, and probably more fun to call people homophobic.
Remember when Libs did this with Obamas race? The new “race card”…The “gay card!”
“I didn’t realize he supports stripping firefighters of their pensions (IF he actually does, I haven’t spoken with Kirk lately).”
I have Mary. I spent at least 8 hours of personal meetings and phone calls with Kirk and his team. I vetted him hard. He supported Prop B, thinks marriage is an issue for the states to decide, thinks the 4th and 2nd Amendments needs to be protected, and that repealing Roe v. Wade is politically impractical at this time– Identical positions to Carl DeMaio.
Where they differ is in the nuanced answers they offered about Life and Marriage. Kirk says he is “pro-Life and pro-Family” on his website while Carl says he “supports a woman’s right to choose but thinks we need private solutions to reduce abortions” and that he “thinks the issue of marriage was settled by SCOTUS” on his.
I go beyond the websites when I interview candidates, though. I ask things like:
“what legislation will you sponsor to repeal Roe v Wade?” (both answered none).
“how would you vote on a federal constitutional Amendment defining marriage as one man and one woman” (both said against)
“what’s the number one risk to National Security?” (both said “the federal debt”)
Describe how you would use the Tenth Amendment to solve the problems of federal jurisdiction (both offered similar answers)
Will you be constrained by Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution when looking for your authority to legislate (both said “no”)
I wish I spent more time interviewing Fred Simon but Kirk and Carl did a much better job trying to connect with me (in fairness, Simon just entered the race). Simon’s campaign has improved.
My decision to vote to endorse Carl did not come lightly. With respect to Kirk’s supporters here, I might ask you to ask him the hard questions I did before making statements which are inconsistent with the answers he offered me. It suggests that you don’t know your candidate’s positions or that he lied to me 7 months ago.
I sincerely doubt it’s the latter.
Founding Father
Brian,
We clearly know their respective positions on plagiarism, copyright theft, and attitudes toward integrity.
Still doesn’t sway anyone? Is the RPSDC still going to hang on to this ostensive character flaw? (This is apparently not his first rodeo in this department)
“Actually, this isn’t the first time that DeMaio, the likely GOP nominee to unseat Scott Peters (D-CA), has been accused of lifting work done by somebody else. The Voice of San Diego reminded readers Monday that prior to DeMaio coming to San Diego, when he was in working in Washington, D.C., he allegedly copied a competitor’s website “down to its color scheme.”
As the Voice of San Diego reported in 2012:
“In 2003, Christopher Wye was planning a major conference on government performance for a center he ran as part of the federally chartered National Academy of Public Administration. Wye said he woke up one morning to find that The Performance Institute had decided to plan its own competing conference and had replicated Wye’s entire website down to its color scheme.
Wye decided to add embossed gold seals to his conference literature and gold seals on his website. They read: “The Original Performance Conference.”
(DeMaio denied copying the website and called the anecdote sour grapes from a competitor.)
In May 2012, then San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders, a fellow Republican, joked that DeMaio made a habit of taking credit for things he shouldn’t take credit for. Sanders made the comments at a news conference when a reporter asked him about DeMaio taking credit for certain financial reforms.
“He probably takes credit for my weight loss,” Sanders said. “He probably takes credit for the weeds I pulled in the backward last week. It’s all bulls—.”
Still all-in? I’m sure for the “all-in” crowd whose personal and political futures are hanging in the balance of DeMaio’s success will ride this fiery lawn dart all the way into the deck.
Peters will have a field day with this…see, he won’t have the concerted media blackout attempt Kirk got…
The issue which moved me from neutrality was the Syrian invasion.
mary moran
Details details, why not reveal your name? its hard for me to respect and take your comments seriously. For all I know you are Carl? Come on, don’t be a coward, what’s your name?
And I didn’t say I dislike gays. My brother in law is gay, and I love him dearly. I simply stated a fact, carl is gay. And he is your friend, right?
See, more sensationalism.
And how about those SDPD being exempted from Prop B due to the backroom dealing between Sanders and Demaio?
Its like pulling teeth to get answers from you moderate men.
mary moran
Brian, this conversation is not about Kirk Jorgensen and/or his campaign. As you know, I support all true conservative candidates, not one in particular.
I would, however, like to know your take on why the SDPD were exempted from Prop B?
Thx
mary moran
PS: Brian as a practicing Catholic you shouldn’t have endorsed Demaio, He is irreligious: fights against the sacred like life and marriage. These issues are foundational, and show an inner compass (or lack thereof). These issues are most important to God. If you’re going to be called a Catholic, your actions should reflect the Word and Teachings of our Lord. Maybe talk with your priest? thx.
“I would, however, like to know your take on why the SDPD were exempted from Prop B”
See the other thread. I answered that there.
“you shouldn’t have endorsed Demaio, He is irreligious: fights against the sacred like life and marriage.”
Again, you really need to read what I write. DeMaio and Jorgensen will legislate the exact same way on Life and Marriage (unless Jorgensen lied to me. I don’t think he did).
Do you think Jorgensen lied to me, Mary or, like Prop B, are you unaware of how he answered questions about these issues?
mary moran
Brian, I respect you very much. I disagree with you though. Demaio is morally bankrupt. He will further the LGBTQ agenda. He is not the same as Jorgensen. Carl is a practicing homosexual who calls himself catholic. (I pray he is not receiving the Eucharist). There is a huge moral difference between the two candidates, and you know it. The moral aspect is foundational: It’s their compass to the way in which they live their lives. I know im not telling you anything you don’t already know. Just be careful, your daughter is watching your every move. Don’t be a “do as I say but not as I do” dad. Tony should take heed also.
Michael A. Schwartz
Mary, thanks for the clarification in your last comment. Clearly you simply disagree with Carl’s platform and aren’t against him just because he is gay. Clearly.
You’re right,. im not against carl because he is gay. as I mentioned earlier, my brother in law is gay, and I love him dearly.
im against carl because he will promote the LGBTQ agenda, which is devastating to life and traditional marriage. Im not judging him, that is for God to do, im simply conveying facts.
Also, I feel carl is shady in his backroom dealings with then Mayor Sanders for his support of Prop B if the police were exempted from pension reform. As you know, Sanders is the former Police Chief.
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Vito,
You’re right…scandalous!…I look forward to more in depth and crack observations on all the pre-endorsement “closed meetings” and elitist cabals of “old white men” that greased the skids, bypassed the bylaws, and crafted the endorsement atmospherics to ensure the New Generation Cultural Stalinist’s Hood Ornament and exposed plagiarist has received. Perhaps one can expose the insider Tammany Hall cronyism that has been the hallmark for why 80K former Republicans have left the party over the last 7 years, complete with intimidation of members, financial inconsistencies, and stark political nepotism that makes young FBI agents salivate.…No..wait! Let’s explore the initial media blackout on Jorgensen’s campaign by Roger Hedgecock (full-throated enabler for DeMaio…walking (if not crossing) a very thin line on his radio host obligations and ethical boundaries…but I hear that kind of muddled approach isn’t new for him… and Papa Doug’s UT rejecting of pro-Jorgensen editorials…KFMB finally loosened the reigns and actually had Jorgensen, and Simon, on Mike Slater today…apparently filed FCC complaints have a tendency to do that!
Of course, Roger is ostensibly afraid to have Jorgensen on his “All-Carl-All-the-Time” coverage of the 52nd race…again, the optics/perception are horrible for DeMaio when measured with Jorgensen (which is no doubt why DeMaio’s campaign demands DeMaio is never in the same room as Jorgensen..speaking of cowardice…)..…responsible, balanced, and so informative is Hedgecock’s approach…such a paragon of impartial journalistic and political virtue in assisting the people of San Diego come to informed decisions…and of course, he loves the vets!…And what better way to show that than have a blackout on a veteran running for Congress in your district by denying him access to your show?
Oh, and Vito…better come clean on your Nom De Plume…Richard Rider hates that and will accuse you of cowardice…unless of course he knows you and, more importantly, you agree with him.
Hi Vito, I support all true conservatives, not just Kirk Jorgensen. And obviously my post was not promoting Kirk, as I didn’t realize he supports stripping firefighters of their pensions (IF he actually does, I haven’t spoken with Kirk lately). So, how can you title my post differently? But its ok, I know your real objective is to create sensationalism for your gay buddy Carl DeMaio, that’s what all liberals do, its kinda funny actually.
Mary Moran says “I know your real objective is to create sensationalism for your gay buddy Carl…”
Mary, with that, you reveal oh so much.
We get it. You dislike gays.
This has nothing to do with pensions, or any other issue.
It’s those damn gays, right Mary?
If true, then she should vote for Peters if Carl is the nominee…but she won’t…because DeMaio and Peters possess the same positions on formerly recognized GOP platform issues.
But, you go…it is clearly easier, and probably more fun to call people homophobic.
Remember when Libs did this with Obamas race? The new “race card”…The “gay card!”
“I didn’t realize he supports stripping firefighters of their pensions (IF he actually does, I haven’t spoken with Kirk lately).”
I have Mary. I spent at least 8 hours of personal meetings and phone calls with Kirk and his team. I vetted him hard. He supported Prop B, thinks marriage is an issue for the states to decide, thinks the 4th and 2nd Amendments needs to be protected, and that repealing Roe v. Wade is politically impractical at this time– Identical positions to Carl DeMaio.
Where they differ is in the nuanced answers they offered about Life and Marriage. Kirk says he is “pro-Life and pro-Family” on his website while Carl says he “supports a woman’s right to choose but thinks we need private solutions to reduce abortions” and that he “thinks the issue of marriage was settled by SCOTUS” on his.
I go beyond the websites when I interview candidates, though. I ask things like:
“what legislation will you sponsor to repeal Roe v Wade?” (both answered none).
“how would you vote on a federal constitutional Amendment defining marriage as one man and one woman” (both said against)
“what’s the number one risk to National Security?” (both said “the federal debt”)
Describe how you would use the Tenth Amendment to solve the problems of federal jurisdiction (both offered similar answers)
Will you be constrained by Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution when looking for your authority to legislate (both said “no”)
“would you support the President’s desire to invade Syria?” (DeMaio said no and Kirk wrote this piece on FlashReport: )
http://www.flashreport.org/blog/2013/09/16/the-war-in-syria-world-cannot-afford-for-good-men-to-do-nothing/
I wish I spent more time interviewing Fred Simon but Kirk and Carl did a much better job trying to connect with me (in fairness, Simon just entered the race). Simon’s campaign has improved.
My decision to vote to endorse Carl did not come lightly. With respect to Kirk’s supporters here, I might ask you to ask him the hard questions I did before making statements which are inconsistent with the answers he offered me. It suggests that you don’t know your candidate’s positions or that he lied to me 7 months ago.
I sincerely doubt it’s the latter.
Brian,
We clearly know their respective positions on plagiarism, copyright theft, and attitudes toward integrity.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/may/12/demaio-accused-plagiarizing-pension-data/
Still doesn’t sway anyone? Is the RPSDC still going to hang on to this ostensive character flaw? (This is apparently not his first rodeo in this department)
FromTalkingPointsMemo- http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/carl-demaio-plagiarism-national-journal-jerry-sanders
It says, in part;
“Actually, this isn’t the first time that DeMaio, the likely GOP nominee to unseat Scott Peters (D-CA), has been accused of lifting work done by somebody else. The Voice of San Diego reminded readers Monday that prior to DeMaio coming to San Diego, when he was in working in Washington, D.C., he allegedly copied a competitor’s website “down to its color scheme.”
As the Voice of San Diego reported in 2012:
“In 2003, Christopher Wye was planning a major conference on government performance for a center he ran as part of the federally chartered National Academy of Public Administration. Wye said he woke up one morning to find that The Performance Institute had decided to plan its own competing conference and had replicated Wye’s entire website down to its color scheme.
Wye decided to add embossed gold seals to his conference literature and gold seals on his website. They read: “The Original Performance Conference.”
(DeMaio denied copying the website and called the anecdote sour grapes from a competitor.)
In May 2012, then San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders, a fellow Republican, joked that DeMaio made a habit of taking credit for things he shouldn’t take credit for. Sanders made the comments at a news conference when a reporter asked him about DeMaio taking credit for certain financial reforms.
“He probably takes credit for my weight loss,” Sanders said. “He probably takes credit for the weeds I pulled in the backward last week. It’s all bulls—.”
Still all-in? I’m sure for the “all-in” crowd whose personal and political futures are hanging in the balance of DeMaio’s success will ride this fiery lawn dart all the way into the deck.
Peters will have a field day with this…see, he won’t have the concerted media blackout attempt Kirk got…
Good luck, Brian. Be smart!
FF,
The issue which moved me from neutrality was the Syrian invasion.
Details details, why not reveal your name? its hard for me to respect and take your comments seriously. For all I know you are Carl? Come on, don’t be a coward, what’s your name?
And I didn’t say I dislike gays. My brother in law is gay, and I love him dearly. I simply stated a fact, carl is gay. And he is your friend, right?
See, more sensationalism.
And how about those SDPD being exempted from Prop B due to the backroom dealing between Sanders and Demaio?
Its like pulling teeth to get answers from you moderate men.
Brian, this conversation is not about Kirk Jorgensen and/or his campaign. As you know, I support all true conservative candidates, not one in particular.
I would, however, like to know your take on why the SDPD were exempted from Prop B?
Thx
PS: Brian as a practicing Catholic you shouldn’t have endorsed Demaio, He is irreligious: fights against the sacred like life and marriage. These issues are foundational, and show an inner compass (or lack thereof). These issues are most important to God. If you’re going to be called a Catholic, your actions should reflect the Word and Teachings of our Lord. Maybe talk with your priest? thx.
Mary,
Your not reading anything I write. To wit:
“I would, however, like to know your take on why the SDPD were exempted from Prop B”
See the other thread. I answered that there.
“you shouldn’t have endorsed Demaio, He is irreligious: fights against the sacred like life and marriage.”
Again, you really need to read what I write. DeMaio and Jorgensen will legislate the exact same way on Life and Marriage (unless Jorgensen lied to me. I don’t think he did).
Do you think Jorgensen lied to me, Mary or, like Prop B, are you unaware of how he answered questions about these issues?
Brian, I respect you very much. I disagree with you though. Demaio is morally bankrupt. He will further the LGBTQ agenda. He is not the same as Jorgensen. Carl is a practicing homosexual who calls himself catholic. (I pray he is not receiving the Eucharist). There is a huge moral difference between the two candidates, and you know it. The moral aspect is foundational: It’s their compass to the way in which they live their lives. I know im not telling you anything you don’t already know. Just be careful, your daughter is watching your every move. Don’t be a “do as I say but not as I do” dad. Tony should take heed also.
Mary, thanks for the clarification in your last comment. Clearly you simply disagree with Carl’s platform and aren’t against him just because he is gay. Clearly.
Advice for Kirk:
http://sdrostra.com/?p=38279
Michael. you’re very welcome.
You’re right,. im not against carl because he is gay. as I mentioned earlier, my brother in law is gay, and I love him dearly.
im against carl because he will promote the LGBTQ agenda, which is devastating to life and traditional marriage. Im not judging him, that is for God to do, im simply conveying facts.
Also, I feel carl is shady in his backroom dealings with then Mayor Sanders for his support of Prop B if the police were exempted from pension reform. As you know, Sanders is the former Police Chief.
Lets stick to the issues Michael,
Thx