Roll Call is out with its analysis of House Races. What they say about Scott Peters is what we locally already know.
There are a number of endangered Democrats, but none more so than Scott Peters.
Peters will face a top GOP recruit, ex-San Diego Councilman Carl DeMaio.
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Mr. DeMaio,
Unfortunately, your participation in the cabal of last week with Mr. Manchester, et al, was not the “most watched.”…but it is now the “most talked about.”
In your recent “Manifesto,” you lauded the praises of the “New Generation” Party, claiming the “Republicans” need to stop being the party of “white men,” then proceeded to meet with a small group of “white men” to determine, for the entire Party, and possibly all of the 52CD, what the agenda will be, who the nominees will be, and how the rest of us were to “shut up and color” while the map, and our political and social lives, were to be carved up. I am not sure to which “Republican Party” you are referring …certainly not the one with Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley, Condoleezza Rice, Ted Cruz, Richard Grennell, and many others who would NOT be in the category of traditional “white men.”
If this is the “New Generation”, Sir, I, and many Republicans within the 52CD, would prefer not to fall victim to this “New Generation” pap.
FF:
I have no issue whatsoever with any opinion you have of DeMaio or what you note as the “new generation” of Republicans.
But, I am calling your BS on stating as fact things you can’t possibly know. Unless you were in the room. Were you?
Assuming Scott Lewis’ second-hand account in Voice is correct, which I will here, there were about 30 attendees at the meeting. Lewis identified about 11 of them. Do you know who the rest were? Of those identified, how many are women? (That one you can figure out, but I bet you believe none are.) Gay? How many of the 30 or so were men? White?
The point is, even if most of them were men and white, you don’t know the answers.
If you want to assume the majority were, fine, you can assume it. But not state it is as fact.
I will just assume you support quotas.
PP….
So, just to clarify… if it were some ratio of different genders and ethnicities…are you saying you are ok with the fact that a very small group of unelected, collectively un-official people (“30”) in a non-transparent, non-disclosed meeting with not only politicos (Faulconer, and DeMaio) but heavy hitting developers and Key Leadership from the RPSDC (Messrs Manchester and Krvaric, et al) met to discuss the pre-ordained future of two Republican candidates key to both a mayoral and congressional races….that is ok with you??
Here is what we know…it was meant to be “below-the radar.” (since the RPSDC and both Campaigns send a press release out on everything else, we can confidently surmise, they didn’t want the general public to know)…”it had “grafty” undertones as witnessed just from who we KNOW were in the room…and who was NOT in the room (Papa Doug…Krvaric..were they there sharing Fantasy football picks??) …it is a little stinky…and a little hinky…and it didn’t appear very inclusive as Mr. DeMaio was professing in his Manifesto…and when we peel away all the conjecture and “who knew what/who was there etc…” we know this…
Doug Manchester, Tony Krvaric, Kevin Faulconer, and Carl DeMaio (yes, a small cabal of white men) were all there and ostensibly, were there discussing the impact of the upcoming elections as it relates to their personal and political wheel houses…so…again, where is the BS??
Perhaps it is the fact that the rest of us “Zhlubs” NOT in the room are subject to what those who were say is the way things will play out…now that is BS!
Would you not agree?
Wow, those with common interests got together to determine if they could clear the field for one candidate? Shocking!!! That’s NEVER happened before. Apparently, they were supposed to invite every Republican in San Diego to the meeting. LOL!!!
They weren’t there to pick who would run. They were there to pick who they’d finance. Anyone can run. As evidenced by the 30 candidates running.
Sure its happened…unions, special interests, media…when you put it that way, PP, it sounds so warm and fuzzy, just so normal and right…business as usual…and we wonder why so many people are diseffected with Party Politics…especially with the RPSDC…
That’s what make oligarchies soooo cool…all that common interest!
Maybe you were in the room? LOL…!!
Ya Know…so, using that logic, anyone can push their car to the starting line of the race…the cabal is just going to determine who gets gas for their car…
I guess if you like Messrs DeMaio and Faulconer, then you are well represented in SDC…thanks Doug Manchester, Tony Krvaric, and other “in-the-roomers” for determining our nominees even before a single meeting is held, debate is moderated, or commercial is aired.
Very Reagan-esque and American.
I’m sure this is what the Founding Fathers had in mind…constitutional democracy at its purest. I’m sure the vets of SDC are going to enjoying hearing this is what they have been defending…back room deals, handing out virtual vouchers for financing and support, nepotism, and graft….I know I am!
According to this article, an all white group would be able to finance a mayoral campaign less so than some mixed race groups. The cabal should have mixed it up some. But, on second thought, drawing any comparisons to this article would be ridiculous. Speaking of ridic.
http://www.businessinsider.com/this-is-the-highest-earning-type-of-interracial-couple-2012-2
Did any of the Founding Fathers ever meet in secret? Just asking.
The constitutional convention was in secret, as a matter of fact. But, we shouldn’t be comparing Manchester and company to the Founding Fathers, should we? No one should compare themselves to the FFs, except those who have an issue with “white men.” Because, certainly, the Founding Fathers weren’t white men.
Owned.
My statement was literal fact not open to interpretation.
Why do you feel you should have a say in how they spend their money?
The Founding Fathers met in secret because they feared for their lives. These people met in secret because they fear transparency.
The real question is “why”?
Q.E.D.
I get it now, you fear for your life, that’s why you use FF. Did you see that I said there should be no comparison? Yet you can’t help yourself. You don’t get the difference between transparency and strategy? Seriously?
Oh, the constitutional convention proceedings were secret as a point of strategy, not fear for life. The concern was undue influence on the delegates. Call it a lack of transparency if you want.
Good Luck Mr. Larkin in your valiant, but but feckless attempt trying to convince any sentient being that the secret oligarchic cabal was anything other than crass nepotism, graft, and back room deals.
If that is the “new Generation” you may indulge yourself.
YK- I think the question needs to be, why does their money determine who gets elected?
I, imagine like a lot of folks, are wondering who picked these people to chart the course of the entire city and a congressional district. If their “strategy” as one put it, is so great, why would it need to be concocted in secret? The great thing about the truth; it typically doesn’t need “strategy” sessions. If that were the case, then every political meeting should be held in secret because of “strategy”? Why have meetings at all? Just a handful of “strategists” can run the whole show.
Maybe I’m just a naive house frau who doesn’t know the “way of the world.” It just doesn’t seem right.
I think ole’ FF is only stating the obvious. And, it obviously touches some nerves.
No answer FF?
Why should people include you in decisions on how they spend their money?
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Sorry for confusing this with a story about Scott Peters being “Endangered.”
Keep the man on the ropes and the boot on his throat.
A man of extreme wealth who uses taxpayer $$$ to pay his legal bills for his part in the underfunding of our pension system, and also lives the high life and cruises around in his BMW M5 at tax payer expense deserves to live under a rock the rest of his life. Not be a Congressman.
That’s just the tip of the iceberg.
I have to go with Leaderless on this one…
“Why does their money determine who is to get elected?”
I might consider stipulating that with Manchester and other “civilians” invited to the close seession meeting……but the Chairman of the RPSD? That isn’t “his” money…he holds the reins and influence to donor money and support streams…money and streams from a lot of Republicans that may not agree with many of Mr. DeMaio’s antithetical positions on a number of Party Platform items.
I can explain it again, YK….but I can’t comprehend it for you, My Friend. Secret back-room “strategy” sessions=perception of slimy, neferious, and shady…Do you think for one minute Peters won’t see it for what it is either??
I guess if DeMaio and the front-running challenger, Jorgensen, or even Francis, had a debate, and Republicans could observe, view, and decide for themselves in an open forum, then perhaps it might open up the discussions a bit…I guess Mr. DeMaio is more comfortable dealing in secret. So much for inclusiveness and the Reform agenda.
Me too, TWM…but it was posted by Mr. DeMaio…so, hence the segue.
Personally, I think DeMaio has alligators a lot closer to the boat than Mr. Peters. Kirk Jorgensen has a lot of money being raised…surely some big endorsements lined up (already Hunter Sr, and the Titan CEO…others will surely follow) and is gaining momentum across the county. (BTW, he is a terrific speaker…and has a firm grasp of the geo-political challenges we are currently facing from his extensive intelligence background…and, unlike his opponents, he doesn’t need to “google or wiki” his answers…)
It’s only September…there is still 8 rounds of MMA to watch…It’s only a matter of time when enough people in the inner circle of the RPSDC and bigger donors come to the stark realization that they backed the wrong horse.
It will be fascinating to watch!
Over 30 people are running. At least one candidate running is on the GOP Central Com.
This group didn’t determine who gets elected. They determined how they’re going to spend their money.
If the meeting was a “secret”, why do we all know it happened and what was said? They didn’t invite you so it’s a secret? When’s the last time you invited any of them to anything?
That’s not my perception. Maybe you watch too many movies?
I’m not sure who you’d rather that group spend their money on? But the endorsement by the Republican Party came from the Cent Com. Not a multi-millionaire is among them (that I’m aware). And the CC were all elected by the people.
Why do you think you are entitled to make decisions on how others spend their money and why are you against the will of the people whose elected representatives endorsed a candidate for mayor?