Revisionist History: Iraq, WMDs and Intelligence

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Originally published by Communities Digital News

SAN DIEGO, May 21, 2015 — On the heals of Jeb Bush’s adjusted answer following Megyn Kelly’s Fox News interview in which she asked if he would have invaded Iraq, knowing what we know today, other potential Republican 2016 candidates are falling into step with their own answers to the question.

The answer, seemingly obvious, is “No, since we have now established that our intelligence was erroneous and Iraq had no WMD’s, there was no point for the war.”

Unfortunately, very few are asking an important follow up question. Was the intelligence really wrong?

I investigated this subject through research and a radio interview back in 2013. International columnist and college professor Amir George insisted that Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction really did exist. Speaking on my own radio program, (The Bob Siegel Radio Show, KCBQ 1170 San Diego) George, who was promoting his book, Liberating Iraq, offered some interesting insight into America’s search for the WMD that prompted the Iraq war.

An Iraqi who at the time taught at Chiba University in Chiba, Japan, George was in Iraq both before and after America’s invasion. He was involved with early relief efforts after the war.

Since finding WMD’s was the stated intention of the Bush administration’s military campaign, Amir George’s  testimony helped re-open a news story that many thought had long since ridden off into the sunset. George’s revelations are corroborated by other witnesses, long since put on record but mostly ignored or underplayed by the mainstream media.

The information in his book is drawn from meetings with the Iraqi prime minister, foreign minister, top U.S. and international officials, and the Iraqi people themselves.

When asked how he obtained such connections, George said, “We were there before the war … We brought the first relief truck of supplies right after the war. And as you can imagine, right after war, things are pretty much in flux. So it’s basically whoever got there first kind of knew everybody and it developed from there.”

George’s primary purpose in granting the interview to KCBQ was to help our country understand that many Iraqi people at that time appreciated the American military, not only for their obvious liberation from an evil dictator, but also for a “spiritual renewal.” George credits this renewal to the kindness of the American soldiers.

But lightning seemed to strike in the middle of George’s interview when the subject of Iraq’s WMDs was raised. George freely and persuasively offered an account that contradicts conventional wisdom that America’s intelligence was mistaken or that “Bush lied.”

“Well, it’s fascinating to everybody, to be perfectly frank,” George said. “All I can say is that first of all, one of our distant relatives was actually a part of the situation right before the war and he directly says they flew part of them into Iran, they flew other parts of them into Syria and then other parts of them they buried in the desert. And, well, we detail in the book, we had a number of conversations and the conversations were always very strange, because nobody really can talk about it.”

When asked how the Bush administration could have failed to hear of these accounts and why they would not have vindicated themselves if they had known the truth, George said that very question was put directly to a U.S. soldier in Iraq who replied, “I can’t tell you, but what would you do if you were looking for something that was supposed to be somebody else’s and you found it and it turned out to be yours?”

In other words, at least some of those weapons had been supplied to Saddam Hussein by the United States during Iraq’s war with Iran.

“Essentially what happened,” George explained, “was there were all the weapons that, you know, we thought there were but they had been from a previous generation and most of them were ours as well as our allies … So … I think every one was stuck with this catch-22 situation … Either you say that you couldn’t find them or you say we found them and they’re ours … each of them being equally difficult … and they chose as far as we can tell … ‘we couldn’t find them.’”

George’s radio spot provided an interesting sequel to my earlier 2005 interview with Victor Mordecai, former Israeli Defense Force spokesman for the Judea and Samaria Command and former senior editor/translator for the government press office under Prime Minister Hakluyt Shamir.

When asked if Iraq’s WMDs existed and found their way into other countries, Mordecai replied, “The answer is definitely ‘Yes.’ And by the way, my wife … Egyptian born and Arabic speaking, works in intelligence gathering. And they were watching the satellite monitors,of these tremendous 18 wheelers, crossing over from Iraq into Syria, prior to the recent war in Iraq, prior to the American invasion of Iraq. And the weapons were sent to Syria; the weapons were sent to Libya; the weapons were sent to Sudan.”

He went on to talk about “the gassing of the blacks in the south of Sudan from the weapons they received from Iran and Iraq.”

Suggesting that the Bush administration would, in all likelihood, have been privy to Israeli intelligence, Mordecai was asked the same question that was put to Amir George: Why would President Bush not vindicate himself?

Mordecai’s answer was brief and sobering. “Three letter word: O-I-L.”

Mordecai’s comments were not the only revelations from Israel.

An article in the 2005 Middle East Quarterly described an appearance on Israel’s Channel 2 on December 23, 2002, of former prime minister Ariel Sharon. The prime minister said, “Chemical and biological weapons which Saddam is endeavoring to conceal have been moved from Iraq to Syria.”

The Syrian government denied the claim. But Syria’s stellar reputation for truth telling did not discourage the New York Sun from investigating further.

In 2006, Moshe Yaalon, Israel’s top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, told the Sun that Saddam “transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria.”

A little more than a month later, the Sun obtained an additional interview, this time with an Iraqi general, Georges Sada, the second in command of Saddam Hussein’s air force. Sada went on record to say that weapons of mass destruction were hidden in commercial airplanes and smuggled into Syria prior to America’s arrival. This was made possible by the removal of passenger seats.

“There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands … I am confident they were taken over.”

Sada claims to have obtained this information first hand from the pilots of the two airliners who approached him quietly and confided in him.

“I know them very well. They are very good friends of mine. We trust each other. We are friends.”

For safety reasons, Sada refrained from mentioning names.

According to these pilots, two Iraqi Airways Boeings carried “yellow barrels with skull and crossbones on each barrel.” They also mentioned 56 flights and other weapons removed from the country in trucks.

“Saddam realized, this time, the Americans are coming,” Sada continued. “They handed over the weapons of mass destruction to the Syrians.”

When asked about Sada, Amir George confirmed his story.

“Those are exactly the facts. They were flown to Iran, they were shipped across the border to Syria, and then buried in the desert. So the situation in Syria that’s developing in many ways is connected to this.”

The variety of corroborating testimony warrants a second look into America’s confusing rapport with Iraq so that our history books can be written properly.

Assuming these reports are true, it is anybody’s guess why George Bush would not have chosen to disclose the information.

The fact that America once supported Iraq against Iran was not a secret. Did the timing seem difficult? Would the discovery of our own weapons look embarrassing after we provided the world with such a compelling case to remove WMDs?

Was there an additional motive regarding our oil interests as suggested by Victor Mordecai?

Was America’s need for oil so important and so delicate that our government chose to ignore the shipping of weapons from one country to another so as to not upset the balance of power in that delicate, unstable part of the world?

Did it seem easier and more diplomatic to act like our intelligence was wrong?

Whatever the reasons, nobody profits from a lie. In this case, hiding the source of Hussein’s weapons spawned a much worse tale. Historical revisionists continue to suggest that George Bush invented a phony excuse to go to war. How sad if covering up one lie is the reason our former Commander-in-Chief was accused of telling a much worse lie.

This is especially ironic to people like Amir George who wrote his book for a more important reason than discussing WMDs. Quite simply, he wants America to know that Iraq is glad we liberated her from an evil tyrant.

This is Bob Siegel, making the obvious, obvious.

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Bob Siegel is a weekend radio talk show host on KCBQ and columnist. Details of his show can be found at www.bobsiegel.net.

This current article includes portions of a previous article Bob wrote on the subject of WMD’s back in October of 2013. His radio interview with Amir George was on September 1, 2013 and is still posted at www.bobsiegel.net.

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  1. During the early years of the war I interviewed Scott Ritter, the UN weapons inspector. He told me his superiors falsified his report before the war, which had found no weapons of mass destruction. When he complained he was told WMDs must be shown to justify military intervention.

    Ritter was a life-long loyal Republican but said he considered it treason for the Bush administration to start a war based on information it knew was false.

  2. Ritter, unfortunately, contradicted himself in having publically acknowledged Saddam’s potential use of BIOCHEM agents in defense of Baghdad as an invasion loomed. In November 2002 Ritter was on CNN’s crossfire and cautioned against the invasion citing serious concern that Saddam would use chemical weapons in defense of Baghdad:

    “As I testified to the U.S. Senate in 1998, Iraq has the indigenous capability right now to reconstitute a chemical weapons program within a matter of weeks. And my concern is if we continue to push for military action against Iraq, and once the writing becomes clear on the wall — and believe me, if Saddam Hussein doesn’t understand that President Bush is dead serious about going to war against him now, I don’t know when he’ll be — when he’ll recognize that. But at some point, I believe that Iraq will seek to reconstitute militarized nerve agent that will be used in defense of Baghdad. And I think the Iraqi government’s efforts to acquire significant stockpiles of atropine are an indication that this is the direction that Saddam Hussein is heading.”

    Many respectable observers on both sides of the argument agree the verdict is not out decisively as to what precisely happened to Saddam’s formerly and universally acknowledged WMD assets and capabilities. The “Bush Lied, People Died” meme has too many proponents, both external and internal, from Russia, China, and other America critics and detractors to both the US progressive left and its complicit media echo chamber and zealous factions in the Fortress America Libertarian crowd that see bugger-eating Neo-cons behind every US foreign policy objective. As Dennis Praeger asks, is it more powerful to tell the lie loud enough and long enough or tell the truth loud enough and long enough? All I know is we went through countless MOP drills (chem/bio protection drills) at great operational strain and taking away from preparedness and preparations in other arenas because military intelligence had a high degree of confidence he had, and as he had demonstrated in the past, would use WMD in Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom.

  3. “The “Bush Lied, People Died” meme has too many proponents”

    Way too many. The Intel was faulty and the definition of “victory” seemed ever changing but Bush didn’t lie to get us into war. I DO think the neoconservatives preyed upon a good man’s desire to defend America against future attacks, and kept US Troops there far after victory was achieved.

    Ritter is a tough guy to take seriously when you look at his career after he served as an inspector.

  4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

    There were over a dozen reasons given to invade Iraq and only one was WMD. If you need to blame someone, blame Colin Powell. He should have done something rather than just taken orders like a good soldier. He could have stopped it and he wanted to. But he didn’t. And stopping a war that he did not feel comfortable with the US fighting is what he was hired to do.

  5. Brian,

    Speak of the devil…Rand Paul shot the first volley yesterday on Iraq policy and the greater GWOT at the Neo-Cons (McCain/Graham) as this surely is going to be a defining issue, if not contentious, within the NS debate of the GOP. The battle for history and its implications is now on for the direction of the party’s NS perspective for the next decade and perhaps beyond.

  6. “Rand Paul shot the first volley yesterday on Iraq policy and the greater GWOT at the Neo-Cons (McCain/Graham) as this surely is going to be a defining issue, if not contentious, within the NS debate of the GOP.”

    It should be and the reaction to his statement “The Hawks created ISIS” is way overblown. Libertarians and small government conservatives are always pointing out the “unintended consequences” of bad policy.

    A Hussein-less Iraq created a vacuum, a vacuum which had to be filled (as McCain pointed out in 2008):

    “Maybe 100,” McCain replied. “As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed, it’s fine with me and I hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day.”

    A century-long nation building effort…think about that. That’s the unintended consequence of removing Hussein OR…. full troop withdrawal (Obama) in an area where US-supplied weapons are plentiful from previous giveaways. That INVITES a group like ISIS.

    Rand Paul is catching heat for stating the obvious; sometimes intervention offers two bad outcomes. Republicans LOVE when we talk about the two bad outcomes when government meddles domestically but freak the heck out when we talk about international interventions.

    This is a debate worth having.

  7. I wholeheartedly agree. On the one hand- Americans are understandably fatigued from waging essentially a Global War against Jihadi terror, where Iraq and Afghanistan in their proto-failed states are simply the most visible manifestations of those challenging problem sets (admittedly, “nation-builing” notwithstanding).

    On the otherhand, we can see with the increasing overt and clandestine encroachments of serious US detractors in the forms of Russia’s frozen war strategy with non-attribution operations in the sovereign nation of Ukraine; the Chinese incipient “nudge” operations by creating islands out of sub-surface atolls, and then planting the flag on them in the S. China Sea all in direct violation on international law; Iranian influence prospering in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, and exerting political and unconventional influence over key areas in Iraq, let alone the allowance of a well-recognized bad deal on the nuclear front, and the ever-present dark reach of Hezbollah (which. let the truth be known, makes AQ and ISIS truly look JV).

    BL- We see what happens when American leadership makes “bad” decisions…and what happens when America makes no decisions…time will tell which is worse (and yes, both can be bad…). One thing is for sure; Russian, China and Iran seem quite pleased that the current administration has chosen to lead from behind and essentially allowed geo-strategic maneuvers on the parts of America’s detractors (and self-proclaimed enemies) that even 5 years ago would have been unfathomable.

    The real question is; what is the next unfathomable move?

    Sleep well! 🙂

  8. Speaking of sleeping well..the Patriot Act has lapsed…are we feeling freer or safer now?

    Lindsey Graham has launched his presidential candidacy. The battle lines of the “security” camp and the “freedom” camp have been clearly drawn in the GOP NS debate.

    The vicious circle of a “zero sum” construct is now edefined that if we uphold our constitutional rights regarding the 4th Amendment we some how make ourselves less safe against Jihadi terror versus the notion of we have to forgo our freedoms to remain vigilant and safe. Do we recede in our role as security mentor and ostensibly allow more detractors to advance their nefarious agendas against US NS interests around the world and potential safety of the homeland, or do we take the fight to an enemy as dispicable as we have seen in 100 years determined to kill as many innocents as possible, specifically Americans wherever and whenever they can?

    The candidates that can reach escape velocity from the current narrative of a zero sum contruct that falsly defines any advances in security will take away our freedoms and visa versa and can articulate a clear and concise synthesis of security and freedom where adjustments in either don’t erode our need for both freedom and security will be the candidate all Republicans can get behind.

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