Beliefs do matter. Principles matter as well.
On the part of a candidate, his or her core values are meaningless without the ability to communicate them to voters.
Meaningless.
This says it all right now. The rest is meaningless.
Carl DeMaio
Cash On Hand $985,991
Net Contributions $1,080,294
Kirk Jorgensen
Cash On Hand $62,768
Net Contributions $206,890
Fred Simon
Cash On Hand $343,231
Net Contributions $14,510
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It didn’t work for Meg Whitman but I get your point, Steve. Money is not the ONLY factor in a campaign but it makes a big difference
Sorry, but this is an election, not an auction. Character counts a lot more to voters than the dollars spent to elicit their vote. Kirk Jorgensen is getting his message of responsible leadership to the people who count; those who will actually vote in the primary, and he is winning their support in huge numbers.
While money enables campaigns, it is conviction that fuels them.
The current 52CD endorsee has been trapsing around Miami Beach, Palm Springs, and DC to amass his war chest. Places that have nothing to do with the 52CD and its concerns, and is increasingly alienating Republicans. Meanwhile, the challenger is gaining considerabe momentum…its a great David vs. Goliath story.
The dilemma for the RPSDC is clear- The more money spent on people discovering the details of their “New Generation” 52CD endorsee, the LESS they like; the more people see the details of the challenger, the MORE they like…and at the end of the day, it is about ballots, not bucks.
I won’t speak in absolutes, but if Kirk Jorgensen doesn’t make it past the primary, what are Karen Grube and FoundingFather going to spend the remaining 5 months of the election doing? Promoting anti-DeMaio candidates only has about a month and a half left of steam.
Not true. Scott Peters is an anti-DeMaio candidate.
“Money is not the ONLY factor in a campaign…”
I agree with Brian Brady. Money is not the only factor.
More of a factor than having money is not having enough.
UB…once again, you craft the argument in “anti-CD” terms…why is it so difficult for many here to make the simple and logical step that Kirk Jorgensen is the better candidate and easy to like as a true Republican?…he is a full-spectrum candidate and has expertise in National Security in a very dangerous world that both Peters and CD would need to Google to appear they actually knew what they were talking about…
The “anti Demaio” narrative has long passed…and there are hundreds of motivated volunteers that are in fact Pro Jorgensen…you and the RPSDC ignore this at your own peril.
That’s well and good, and I respect your choice of candidate, but you didn’t answer my question.
Provided DeMaio prevails on June 3rd, what is your own personal path forward when it comes to the CA52 race? Support DeMaio? Write in Kirk?
Karen-
It’s not an auction, which is why Fred Simon will fail. Take a look at the money. It’s not Carl bidding on the seat – it’s the people of the 52nd CD putting that money in his coffers. If Kirk was winning where it counted, that money would be in his coffers, no?
most of Carl’s big money coming from out-of-town. Besides, the reason the RPSDC moved up the endorsement of 52CD was to turn on the NRCC and RNC spickets early enough to pack his war chest against the bottomless money pit that is the Peter’s warchest.
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“…the reason the RPSDC moved up the endorsement of 52CD was to turn on the NRCC and RNC spickets early enough to pack his war chest against the bottomless money pit that is the Peter’s warchest.”
That should never happen. The GOP should never prepare for anyone to win.
LOL!!
“the reason the RPSDC moved up the endorsement of 52CD was to turn on the NRCC and RNC spickets early enough to pack his war chest against the bottomless money pit that is the Peter’ warchest””
Not true. The RNCC has also identified Fred Simon on their target list
“prepare to win…” yes, all the while feigning a fair and just process, with faux rules and procedures…manipulating them to whatever “winning end” they see fit…and that is against its own members and constituents…
80K and increasing is the latest number of losses of former Republian members in San Diego CO…but there’s no problem…
All is rainbows and unicorns…gum drops and pixie dust…good luck!
Lets just assume the likely scenario that Carl and Scott go to the run-off since they both have the established name ID and enough money to fight.
If Carl loses (I think it will be close), does Fred Simon become the presumptive nominee for 2016? Assuming he runs a clean campaign that builds his name ID, he would be positioned as a viable candidate right? Especially if RNCC is already looking at him. Doubtful Carl would run again since it would make him, no disrespect intended, a two-time loser who has never won a competitive election. I know Kirk has strong supporters, but I don’t see him as viable in a toss up seat against a moderate dem.
Plus, I think all of Simon’s money is his own. What happens when he starts fundraising?
I weep for the GOP when I read comments like these.
Here you have a guy with awesome fiscal reform credentials and a great shot at winning a swing district, and you’re going to oppose him in the primary and give him tepid support in the general because he’s gay?
There’s a reason they call it the Stupid Party.
Wow-
I just had a comment censored for pointing out the absurdity of rejecting a serious candidate with solid fiscal reform credentials and a real chance of winning a swing district, just because he’s gay.
Sensitive much?
W.C.
You did not have a comment censored. Some comments for different reasons, sometimes unknown reasons, go into a moderation queue, automatically. It’s either that or have dozens of autobot comments show up on the site. We do our best to get to the legit comments as soon as possible. We’d appreciate patience in those instances, instead of accusations of censorship.
Carry on.
Red Herring WC…
As much as the CD folks would like to craft and tout that narrative, the plain fact is Ole’ CD is simply not an impressive Republican… a one trick pony.. “Reform Congress”…Sis Boom Bah!
There are an increasing number of previous CD supporters that are joining the KJ campaign…what changed? CD’s sexual orientation didn’t…nor their acknowledgement thereof…Most agree, it is moot…it is something else…that “something else” is the more people know of CD, the more apt they are to support Jorgensen.
Character and caliber…they are pesky things for those that struggle with them…
http://sdrostra.com/?p=8406
The above is something I wrote and Rostra published a few years back about a personal experience I had with money and campaigns.
I agree, it’s not an auction, but money is important. No….vital.
No matter how principled you are, if nobody hears about it, your campaign will fail. If Jorgensen (who I like and hope runs for another office after June and maybe Central Committee in 2016) has so much support by so many passionate people… why aren’t they writing a check to him?
Everyone….EVERYONE…can squeeze out something. If every one of the multitude of his fans has already squeezed what they can squeeze…then his campaign is not sufficiently financed to win according to these numbers.
That has nothing to do with anyone’s character or sexual orientation. It has to do with math.
Assymetric warfare Michael…hit em’ where there not…CD has bucu bucks..name rec…KJ doesn’t (yet)…yet people are coming over…more every day!
Why?They could just write a check…many have…but more importantly, they are willingly volunteering..not “voluntold” by the establishment..”get on board, or else”..
Leadership is not grabbing one by the balls, and expecting their hearts and minds to follow…it’s grabbing their hearts…and watch them jump in as their balls and minds follow..that is how Jorgensen will win in June.
That’s all great, FF. And he still doesn’t have enough money.
..”Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.???…”
🙂
As the Old Zen Master said…”We’ll see! “
.”Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.???…”
Best. Comment. Ever
Exactly…and does that make Tony “Dean Wormer”?? 🙂
Precisely…and then that would make Tony “Dean Wormer” and Carl “Dougie”..
Why here they are at the Nov endorsement meeting…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROxvT8KKdFw
Happy Easter All!
Perhaps it’s time the friendly wagering/pool is started concerning by what margin Carl DeMaio will win the GOP nomination. Or by what margin someone else wins the nomination (for the delusional).
I’ll leave it to Thorette to formalize this betting pool into its proper form (no money, of course). Surely there’s much interest here in such a contest.
Wagering with money is more fun and meaningful than an opinion pool, as it puts skin in the game — offering everyone a chance to put their money behind their blustering. Fortunately for Jorgensen fans (and the one Simon fan), it’s not legal.
Richard,
Except for the Presidential election, there are no Republican primaries in California.
That’s right. There is always the chance two Republicans will vie against each other in November. Not.
When the RPSDC tried to bluster the South Bay Republican Women and others from that area to help DeMaio in the 2012 San Diego Mayoral election, they basically told the RPSDC “No thank you.” (“Shove it” would have been more accurate but less polite.)
That attitude was reflected in the huge number (unprecedented) of voters who left their ballot blank for mayor in 2012 because they couldn’t stand either candidate. That will happen again if DeMaio manages to make it past the primary, and Peters will win in November.
Voters have grown to despise career politicians like both DeMaio and Peters. But the lack of votes for DeMaio will allow Peters to win. That is, Republicans won’t vote for Peters. They just won’t vote at all.
This election will not be bought, but it can be lost by supporting an unprincipled candidate who says one thing to one group and something else to the next.. The good news is that this election can be won in November by our working together now to support the one candidate who can beat Peters, Kirk Jorgensen, and by giving the voters a real choice between a die-hard Democrat and a strong principled leader.