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The immigration issue. Can someone answer my questions?

Wednesday, April 28, 2010
posted by Poway Roger

The immigration issue is a hard one to decide. People try to make it a Mexican vs USA issue and it’s not, in fact, it’s much broader. I recall about a year ago that a person was caught fishing illegally off the coast of La Jolla. Turned out the person was here illegally from Iran. This person had his hands slapped and that was it. I’m sorry, but if I was in another country as a legal alien or as an ILLEGAL alien, and was caught breaking the law, I would understand if that country told me to leave. When you are in a foreign county, you should be doing your best to obey the law, or face immediate deportation.

We have an issue of people crossing our borders illegally. If that is the case, then why do we fund the health, education, well being of those here illegally, and if we see a moral need too, then shouldn’t the Federal government pay for this (Instead of expecting the States) since they are the ones that cannot control the borders? Why must the States and Counties pay for the inability of the Federal Government to control the borders?

Next issue-taxes vs benefits. I’m always hearing how much illegal aliens cost the state to provide aid. I’ve also heard that the tax revenue that these illegal aliens produce, far exceeds what the government pays to support the benefits paid out. I’ve yet to see these figures. Could someone please supply them? This issue here is a big block for me. Being a fiscal conservative, I worry about the fiscal side of the problem. With the State’s inability to balance a budget, if these claims of the costs for the benefits outweigh the tax revenue generated, then it would be a easy decision to cut any aid (In the state budget) to illegals, but then, if controlling our borders is a federal issue, then, once again, the federal government should be reimbursing the states for 100% of the benefits provided.

Recently, the Federal Government raided a restaurant in Pacific Beach over their hiring of illegals. Well, first of all, that is nice that the government is enforcing their laws, but why don’t they do this more often. Secondly, many of us are also guilty if hiring illegals to do yard work, interior cleaning, etc. What is the difference here?

What about the people that went thru the long process to become legal US residents and some, later on, going thru the long process to become US citizens? Is it right to NOW change the rules? Sometimes people appreciate things more if they have to work for them.

Why can Mexico and other counties have harsh immigration laws, which they enforce, and if we deicide to enforce our much milder ones, we’re called names.

This immigration issue is coming around again. I’d like to be more informed. I’d like to see the facts and figures of both sides. I’d like to have a honest and sincere conversation regarding this issue. Enlighten me.

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6 Responses to “The immigration issue. Can someone answer my questions?”

  1. Gwendolyn says:

    I think Congressman Hunter has answers for you. His solutions start at home.

    Here it is:
    “CA-52: Duncan Hunter (R-CA) hates immigrants AND the constitution”

    by Dante Atkins

    Wed Apr 28, 2010 at 12:46:03 PM PDT

    Adding more blazing hot kerosene onto the raging fire that is the debate over immigration policy in this country, Representative Duncan Hunter has gone on the record supporting deportation of American-born children of illegal immigrants:

    “Would you support deportation of natural-born American citizens that are the children of illegal aliens,” Hunter was asked. “I would have to, yes,” Hunter said. “… We simply cannot afford what we’re doing right now,” he said. “… It takes more than just walking across the border to become an American citizen. It’s what’s in our souls. …”

    Now, at this point, we really ought to turn to what the supreme document of our country, the U.S. Constitution, has to say about who a citizen is:

    AMENDMENT XIV

    Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

    Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section 2 of the 14th amendment.

    Section 1.
    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Ironic, isn’t it? Conservatives love to talk about the Constitution until they’re blue in the face–until it gets in the way of their anti-immigrant tendencies. Then they’re all too happy to ignore it. And Duncan Hunter apparently thinks it’s just fine to deport children who are citizens of the United States out of the only home they have ever known–apparently because they didn’t have the “soul of a citizen” in his mind.

    Callous. Evil. And downright unconstitutional.

    Race tracker wiki: CA-52

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  2. Poway Roger says:

    How does your answer answer my questions? I’m looking for lots, mainly the fiscal bit. Is what we spend on aid to illegals more than what they bring into the tax confers. Hunter is offering an idea, and that is it. I’d like to hear your ideas, instead of relying on politicans for ideas.

  3. Thor's Assistant Rostra Administrator (Thor's Assistant) says:

    Gwen, would appreciate the link to the orginal posting, so due credit is given to the publication. As a matter of course, other blogs and online sources shouldn’t be “reprinted” without providing info on the origination and a link to the material. Or, at least the name of the source. Thanks.

  4. Thor's Assistant Rostra Administrator (Thor's Assistant) says:

    Thank you.

  5. Poway Roger says:

    So apparently I’m left at where I started. No one is willing to provide the numbers to show that their side makes more sense than the other. Emotions are too strong here. Some facts and figures would have helped.

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